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Subject: ( ESNUG 275 #1 279 #3 280 #5)  Even More "I Like Module Compiler!"

> To twist an infamous quote from a former EDA CEO -- if Synopsys put
> "DogFood Compiler" on the market, would users be sending ESNUG
> testimonials about how tasty the gravy bits are?
>
>  -  [ A "CAD" At LSI Logic ]


From: Chris Rowen <rowen@tensilica.com>

Hi John,

Tensilica is funded venture working on high-performance IP for rapidly
growing volume markets.  Our key systems customers care intensely about
five critical charateristics of design environment they may use:

 * application performance - a combination of circuit-level performance and
   architectural performance, measured by data throughput, power  etc. 

 * portability - the opportunity to have the system-on-a-chip silicon built
   in the most appropriate fabrication technology, as measured by cost, 
   performance and business terms

 * adaptability to the task at hand - the opportunity to get all the
   features they and no more in order to ensure optimal price 
   and performance. 

 * ease of integration - the opportunity to easily add value in hardware and
   software along side the independently produced IP, and to validate the
   whole system using the tools and methods with which the system design
   teams are already familiar

 * quality - confidence that the silicon and system produced will work as 
   expected on the  tightest possible schedule.

We have evaluated Module Compiler as a possible key tool for use our  
development.  There are some key characteristics that make it attractive
for datapath-intensive IP:

 * Standard Libraries: The fact that we get results, good results, from 
   off-the-shelf cell libraries is enormously important.  Our customers get 
   the foundation for portability they demand, without a significant 
   sacrifice of performance.  We resynthesize and tune each design against 
   a number of libraries in order to make sure we have robust micro-
   architectures that will work well in a variety of different
   configurations and processes.

 * Turn-around time:  We can take even a fairly large block (many tens of
   thousands of gates) through the Module Compiler in less than 15 minutes.
   This gives us unprecedented opportunity to tune the design in non-trivial
   ways, making major architectural restructurings a thing of hours, not
   weeks.  In fact, the performance we get from improved architecture
   probably far outweighs the possible circuit-level suboptimality of using
   standard libraries.

 * Uniform approach: We mix datapath and control arbitrarily, as needed by
   the problem at hand.  Module Compiler's excellent optimizations for
   datapath structrues, especially adders, shifters and multipliers, means
   that we get good circuits fast.  More important yet, we find it pretty
   easy to describe control functions in the same way, using
   application-specific macros and pre-processing.Since all the interesting
   critical paths run through both datapath and control logic we have a far
   easier time finding and improving our logic when we synthesize as as
   single unit.  Any approach that requires a manual or even automatic cut
   between datapath and control is likely to take too long, leave too many
   optimization opportunities on the table, and lead to poor portability, 
   configurability and integratability.

 * Conciseness: Module Compiler HDL lends itself to extremely concise,
   readable, configurable, structurally-oriented logic descriptions.  The 
   comparative clarity of representation means that one person can actually 
   understand a large unit, and that the number of logic bugs, even on
   configurable designs, is reduced.  We have done a couple of fairly large
   prototype designs -- what would have been complete ICs only a few years
   ago -- in less than 1000 lines of source code each.  The comparative to
   ease of writing and tuning this more concise code probably has saved us a
   couple of months of development time versus conventional RTL coding and
   implementation styles.

 * Quality of Results - Module Compiler's sophsiticated datapath
   optimizations are essential for the high-performance functions we're 
   implementing.  We have had good success using Design Compiler as a 
   post-processor on Module Compiler output.  While DC is too slow to 
   use in that rapid architectural exploration phase, it is so adept as a 
   peephole optimizer on MC output that it can still find a few
   percent of critical path delay even on good circuits.  The combination
   turns out to be measurably and consistently better than either DC or MC 
   could do by itself on large complex mixed datapath/control units.
  
Module Compiler is not perfect, but to borrow Winston Churchill's comment
on democracy, it is can be said that Module Compiler is the worst form of
HDL tool  except all the others that have been tried.  ;-)  Improved support
for floorplanning would clearly reduce uncertainty from statistical
wireload models.   We would also like some better hooks for control logic
description, better UI and better reporting (especially for multiple
critical paths and false paths).  MC has some very interesting hooks for
memory array integration -- these also need to be fleshed out and driven as 
standards for RAM generators in order for Module Compiler to help full
realize the dream of portable/optimized IP.

  - Chris Rowen
    Tensilica, Inc.

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From: "Kenneth Wagner" <kwagner@s3.com>

Dear John,

Just a short note as a first response to the great "Module Compiler" debate
you launched in the recent ESNUGs.  The gentleman from LSI has written a
thought-provoking note.  Unfortunately, I, too, have to weight in saying it
is quite unbalanced.  He was highlighting perceived deficiencies while
making no  attempt to recognize MC's advantages.  Module Compiler, like ALL
tools, comes with caveats.  They can be circumvented. The architects and
design engineers here at S3 used MC creatively and successfully for several
different purposes.  Just my 2 cents.

  - Ken Wagner
    S3, Inc.                     Santa Clara, CA



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