( ESNUG 293 Item 4 ) ---------------------------------------------- [6/10/98]
Subject: ( ESNUG 292 #2 ) More Letters From Users Supporting Linux
> Don't you have a bigger font you could use or something? I still doubt the
> "right" people are going to hear the Linix EDA tool message. The funny
> thing is (my theory only) the software developers are using Linux at home
> so all the major porting has already been done. Do you think there is a
> way to get the EDA vendors to admit to this? (P.S. I loved your "Industry
> Gadfly" column.)
>
> - Todd Kroeger
> Texas Instruments
From: Peter Kamphuis <kamphuis@hl.siemens.de>
Hi John,
I've just read your latest ESNUG post and I really like these these
discussions on Linux - NT. I'm a great Linux fan, too, at home. When will
the "world" understand that these Micro$oft OSes are only nice for playing
games and for doing secretary jobs. When will people stop sending me
M$-Word documents instead of plain ASCII text...
- Peter Kamphuis
Siemens AG Munich
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
From: [ Somewhere In Symbios ]
Anonymous, Please.
Yes, a port of EDA tools to Linux would permit us to keep our UNIX scripts,
but didn't Synopsys commit only to a port to NT? I didn't hear them say
Linux was an option they are considering. But then again as Perl is the
script language of choice today and emacs is already available on the PC,
the pain to move is low. On the other hand with the price of Sun
workstations dropping the way they have, why go through even a small amount
of pain.
- [ Somewhere In Symbios ]
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
From: Miroslav Pokorni <mpokorni@z-ram.com>
Dear Mr. Cooley:
That new NT stuff looks pretty good if you use it for e-mail or to look up
Internet; whatever you get, you usually blame it on the site that you are
visiting (and anyway, e-mail and Internet content are not closely
scrutinized for accuracy by users.) The trouble with NT begins when you
start using an application program where results are correlated and
scrutinized, like CAD. At the first glance, an application seems to work
fine, you start the program and application window is there, you can put in
few lines, save file and use most utilities. The trouble begins when your
design grows large; all of a sudden utilities do not produce expected
results, the screen freezes, you loose some components, your files get
corrupted. At first you blame it on application vendor; their FAEs talk to
the factory, pound keyboards and usually end up suggesting to reinstall
your application.
A natural reaction to this experience is to say that you chose a lousy
supplier of EDA software or they hired incompetent FAEs. After several
iterations and scores of other failing applications you start beginning to
wonder, is it applications or it is 'Redmond' that is failing.
Time spent on recovering work lost to 'Redmond' whims never gets attention
of management, they just see this 75% less for PC vs. Workstation hardware.
As someone who has a column in a paper, Window iconoclastic as it is, you
might be able to give more exposure to Linux. The purpose would be dual, to
remind rest of us that there is a valid alternative to Windows and to get a
message to Redmond that operating system design is an engineering endeavor
not a hobby.
- Miroslav Pokorni
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----
> The company that sells a Linux version of their software, certainly
> gets my attention.
>
> - Bill Schaffer
> Accsyst
From: Peter Denyer <Peter.Denyer@Eng.Sun.COM>
Hi John:
Regarding Bill Schaffer's list of Linux resources in ESNUG Post 292, I'd
like to add one more...
http://www.stardivision.com
For all those Linux (and Solaris, for that matter) users running a
"Microsoft free" environment but would like a well integrated Office
Productivity suite, StarOffice has a lot going for it, not the least of
which for personal use on OpenLinux it is FREE. I have used this
application on a Solaris system - word processing, spreadsheet, presentation
graphics, HTML editor, web browser, mailsystem... etc. It's worth a look.
With growing marketshare in Europe and a new office in the USA, these guys
might be able to cause a little distress to the folks in Redmond!
- Peter Denyer
EDA Market Development
Sun Microsystems
|
|
