( ESNUG 308 Item 10 ) --------------------------------------------- [1/20/99]

Subject: User Comments On Ambit vs. A 4.5 Year Old Verson Of Synopsys 

> I am sure this has been asked a million times but I am relatively new to
> this group.  I am looking into getting a synthesis tool and I am curious
> what the different design engineers (not sales reps) have to say about
> Ambit vs. Synopsys, pros and cons.  We presently uses Cadence's layout
> and schematic editor and our designs are in the 1-10M gate range.  I may
> also be interested in additional auto-place and route tools as well but
> at a minimum I will need to get gate level netlists from Verilog XL
> behavioral or RTL code.
>
>     - Mike Pearson


From: jerry english <jenglish@planetc.com>

I have used both.  I am not an expert by any means.  I used Synopsys DC 3.1?
and found it to be slow.  I now use Ambit's BuildGates, it is fast in
reading the design and in synthesis.  May I suggest you call both of them
and get an evaluation copy for your own consideration.  IMHO, feature for
feature, dollar for dollar Ambit comes out ahead over Synopsys.

Well, they did before Cadence bought them.  It remains to be seen if the
value stays for Ambit, but that's a whole new thread.

  - Jerry English
    Planet C

 [ Editor's Note: This is *really* lame because he's comparing a current
   version of Ambit versus a 4.5 year old version of Synopsys.  Lame!
   Does anyone have any current rev to current rev comparisons?  - John ]



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