( ESNUG 384 Item 15 ) ------------------------------------------- [12/06/01]
Subject: Hooray! This Means Cadence Lawyers Won't Kill Avanti Technology!
From: Sam Bishai <sbishai@cisco.com>
Hi John,
At the Boston SNUG there were at least two papers tackling in details how to
tie PhysOpt to Avanti. I was surprised then at the effort required to deal
with Avanti rather than Cadence Silicon Ensemble.
If they can have a seamless Synopsys/Avanti integration then its a win-win
for a significant number of customers. Synopsys can then put the effort to
a full flow through Avanti and maybe IBM Chipbench.
- Sam Bishai
Cisco Systems Kanata, ON, Canada
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Keep me anonymous please.
This is an excellent news. Avanti technology would not go away just because
people wrongfully handle it. Besides, the customer is always the beneficiary
from strong competition.
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From: "Greg Kuchta" <gkuchta@lsil.com>
This is great news for companies using Avanti tools (us), and very bad for
Cadence. Last I checked, the civil suit hasn't been settled - could Cadence
extract enough money to kill or delay this acquisition, or would this just
hurt Synopsys/Avanti?
I always thought this acquisition would occur, but -after- Cadence had
sucked the life from Avanti.
- Greg Kuchta
LSI Logic, Inc.
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As always, please keep me anon. The Avanti/Synopsys merger is a double
edged sword.
On the good side, each company has some strengths that the other does not.
Also, Avanti's technology will have a much better chance to survive
Cadence's civil law suit.
On the bad side, the two companies must merge their existing technologies
into a single, cohesive product line. This takes time. Unless they create
a crystal clear roadmap and have the leadership to drive it to fruition,
they will languish. This effort can not truly begin until the merger is
approved and the FTC has not been known for it's promptness in these matters.
There is even a slim chance that it will not be approved.
From a technical perspective? We'll have to see what the roadmap looks like
before we can judge this merger.
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From: Greg Tamer <TamerG@tce.com>
In reviewing our tool flow recently, we decided to avoid Avanti because of
concerns about the civil litigation and the future of the company. Looking
back on it though, the purchase of Avanti by Synopsys seems to be so
obvious. It may take a few years to fully integrate the two sets of tools,
but I think it will be a great fit for everyone.
- Greg Tamer
Thomson Multimedia Indianapolis, IN
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