( ESNUG 397 Item 4 ) --------------------------------------------- [07/24/02]

Subject: ( ESNUG 393 #3 ) Two Users Pissed w/ Synplicity Docs & Design Flow

>  Editor's Note: I want to thank Juergen for setting the record straight
>  here.  In my book, it's NOT a benchmark when the Synplicity people
>  run the tool and report back their "results".  This is not an anti-
>  Synplicity sentiment.  I distrust *any* benchmark data that comes from
>  *any* EDA vendor.  I've been lied to too many times.   - John


From: Kevin Beasley <kbeasley@paradyne.com>

Hi, John,

I saw on Synplicity's website a response they made to some comments you made
regarding their tool.  I wish you would 'rip them a new one' for their lousy
documentation, regarding the modular design flow for Xilinx FPGA's.

    - Kevin Beasley
      Paradyne Networks, Inc.

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From: Alex Perry <alex.perry@qm.com>

John,

You don't want to know just how crappy Synplify is.  Of course, it could
just be operator error, but I was having to do *more* manual optimization
than when I was writing brute force RTL equations directly.  And the post-
placement timing-limited throughput was still 50% slower.

    - Alex Perry
      Quantum Magnetics, Inc.                    San Diego, CA


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