( ESNUG 559 Item 4 ) -------------------------------------------- [04/22/16]

Subject: Joe Sawicki on Mentor's relationship with Carl Icahn this year
             DAC'15 Troublemakers Panel in San Francisco, CA


   Cooley: Joe?

  Sawicki: Yes, sir.

   Cooley: What's Mentor's relationship with Carl Icahn this year?

  Sawicki: I was just talking to someone earlier on this.  If I'm
           remembering correctly, Carl's average buy price was eight.
           We're at 27.  He loves us.

   Cooley: What would happen if he sold?

  Sawicki: Probably not much at this point.  He's got an interesting
           aspect -- there are reporting requirements that are fairly
           stringent at his level.  I think from 15% ownership down to 5%
           ownership, you have probably have to declare every percent or
           two percent or something like that.  So he has to talk a lot
           as he goes out.

           But, I mean, at this point, we got a really interesting position
           in MENT stock.  We're one of the only technical software
           companies on the planet that pays a dividend.  So we get
           investors from that side of the house and people that scream
           from that.  We've got a really good growth story the last few
           years.  We've got increased profitability.  Our stocks in fine
           shape.  We're at a historic high.  Life's good.

   Cooley: So actually it was good Carl Icahn came and trashed MENT management?

  Sawicki: You know, OK, Carl trashed Mentor management because there is
           theater involved in all of these things.  Within 6 months of him
           having people on the board, the comments were more positive
           about how well-managed the company was.  The last shareholder
           that was elected on the dissident slate, resigned, not in anger,
           just resigned because he's got other things that are more
           important things for him to be dealing with.  He was off the
           board about 6 months ago and we now have a completely different
           board than we did before.  There's no dissident shareholder
           votes there.

           Yeah, I mean and Icahn's still holding onto the stock and is
           doing well on it.  So you know and I think about 6 months ago,
           Carl actually stopped having had approval on my release plans.
           [audience laughs.]  So that was good...

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